That’s a tough poll Art! Options B C and D. I think we all know the M’s objective, and know that the best PR method of fighting a new arena would be to throw up issues like public safety, environment, traffic.. It’s like a free agent who signs for the new team and says all of these reasons without mention of money. If they can throw enough wrenches in the plan to even delay construction for a year, the M’s would take that as a win.

The guys who built a stadium next to a RR crossing (which didn’t have an overpass for 10 years), have little business complaining about where a new arena is built with relation to public safety. At some point, perhaps Howard and Chuck will realize that they don’t own/control all the land around Safeco Field.

If Amtrak has concerns, they are in a good position to voice them and they should be considered. The Mariners need to focus on their awful product instead of making hypocritical arguments against a new arena.

I am saddened as a lfelong M’s fan (28yrs) that they would oppose the new arena for basketball. all of their reasons sound bogus and seems to stem from fear of competition for the sportsfan dollars. they did not object about traffic concerns when the Sounders were starting (occasional overlapping of games) but are fearful of oversaturation of the market and less dollars being available for the M’s. Because of their objection, I will not be spending by sports dollars on M’s and will use it towards the new basketball team or other local teams. I hope the M’s brass understand that they are not only alienating M’s fans but fans of other local teams and people who voted with public financing of Safeco field (beautiful stadium with no bad seats in the house). Just wondering but is Amtrak complaining about pedestrian safety concerns from the possible additional of trains if the coal transfer station is approved which is supposed to add to the congestion in the Sodo area? Is the opposition by the shippers/docks/Port of Seattle to the new arena adding congestion to the Sodo area being voiced by these same groups about the added coal trains that will add to the congestion problems in Sodo? Any of the opposition groups to the new basketball arena b*!c# about it?

‘Without such an agreement, says Mariners attorney Melody McCutcheon, “We have significant concerns whether this is workable.”’

Um… Does it really matter if they object? Do they have any *actual* say in anything? Hasn’t the deal been approved, pending the environmental review? Shouldn’t these crusty old fools be treated like any other curmudgeon whining and complaining about them pesky kids next door?