BY Art Thiel 06:35PM 10/20/2015

Thiel: From ‘What’s your deal?’ to no big deal

The once-hottest rivalry in U.S. sports has chilled into tapioca, but coming in second Thursday night will assure a lost season for either the Seahawks or 49ers.

After the Seahawks beat the 49ers 19-3 the past Thanksgiving at Levi’s Stadium, Richard Sherman walked off the field with an additional post-game prize, supplied by a TV network. / Drew McKenzie, Sportspress Northwest

RENTON — It used to be called the What’s Your Deal? Bowl, from the remark Pete Carroll made to Jim Harbaugh when both began disliking each other at their college jobs.

Thursday night, we have the No Big Deal Bowl.

In a single season, the hottest team rivalry in U.S. sports, Seahawks vs. 49ers, has chilled into tapioca. Gone, of course, is Harbaugh, the Yosemite Sam to Carroll’s Bugs Bunny. The former 49ers coach returned to college at Michigan, where he’s teaching a course in Loose Ball Recovery. Next quarter.

Also gone from the 49ers are most of the coaches and many of the players — Michael Crabtree, Frank Gore, Aldon Smith and his attorneys and enablers — that helped make the series between the teams so entertaining.

Gone from the Seahawks are . . . well, fourth quarters. They used to own them. Now it’s three and done.

So instead of colossal kingdoms with fiery leaders fighting for gold, spices and huge tracts of land, we have a pair of 2-4 teams waddling about trying to stay out of last place in the NFC West.

The absence of stakes is big loss. Last season, the Seahawks’ 19-3 win at Santa Clara on Thanksgiving Day so infuriated 49ers owner Jed York that he took to Twitter and offered an apology for the performance of a team that entered the game 7-4.

York’s rant was a cruel public undercutting of the Harbaugh regime that removed all doubt that, despite three consecutive NFC Championship game appearances, he was done in San Francisco.

Mockery took place on the field after the game, when Fox TV rolled out tables upon the 49ers logo loaded with a Thanksgiving dinner, then had CB Richard Sherman and QB Russell Wilson sit down for an interview/feast.

Asked whether in hindsight he thought that scene was a good idea, Wilson acted as if he barely remembered.

“No, I don’t really think anything about it, honestly,” he said Tuesday. “I’m not sure who was running the network, they just asked us to go wherever they tell us to go.”

Fox was trying to pump up the volume for the Seattle rematch in December, also won by the Seahawks, 17-7, making for five wins in the past six. But now that both teams, at least temporarily, have spun out of the spotlight, there is no urge, at least on the Seattle side, to making this game any more annoying than the mere fact of a Thursday night game.

“It’s no different than it was then —  same old, one game at a time,” Sherman said. “Another opponent, another opportunity to go out there and improve and show what we can do.”

Similarly dismissive was Wilson.

“I think it’s always been big, obviously — any time you play an NFL team, it’s always going to be a fight,” said. “Obviously, you play a team that’s in your division, we have a lot of respect for them, and how they play the game and it usually comes down to the wire.”

One guy, however, who seems to buy in to the old drama is the new coach of the 49ers, Jim Tomsula, who became acquainted with the ritual as an assistant.

“That’s one thing around here that we all know, being in this area: that this is a big game,” Tomsula told reporters Monday at team headquarters. “We don’t make any bones about that. Anytime you play Seattle, it’s a big deal. So I wouldn’t expect that we’ve got to get anybody pumped up for this game.”

But for the Seahawks, who still have high expectations for the season, the game is more meaningful because they still have most of the band together that’s been to consecutive Super Bowls, and thus the most to lose.

“It’s a hard league,” said offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell. “It can turn quickly. You can look back to any of the games and the record could be completely flipped. There’s any number of things that can change that. ”

So the match this time may not be about huge tracts of land. But coming in second Thursday assures a lost season.

Seahawks re-sign Jeanpierre; Coleman activated

Another sign the remade offensive line isn’t working: The Seahawks Tuesday re-signed free agent C Lemuel Jeanpierre, 28. The Seahawks cut him before the season when they decided to go with younger, cheaper alternatives, Drew Nowak and Patrick Lewis — and also didn’t want to pay Jeanpierre’s contract that would have been guaranteed for the year on opening day.

But Nowak struggled through the first four games and was benched Sunday for Lewis, who at least has played center for most of his career. Nowak is a converted defensive lineman. But Lewis came out of the Carolina game with a sore knee and ankle. No word yet on who will start.

To make room, LB Brock Coyle (knee) was put on injured reserve/ready to return, meaning he’s eligible to return to practice in six weeks. Jeanpierre, who was at practice Tuesday and will be with the Seahawks for parts of the most recent five seasons, was not picked up by any team since being waived. He started 11 games from 2011-14 when incumbent Max Unger was injured.

Lewis was acquired off waivers in August 2014 from Green Bay and again off Cleveland’s practice squad last fall before starting four games last season.

The Seahawks also activated FB Derrick Coleman after a five-day suspension following his arrest in a two-vehicle accident in Bellevue Wednesday. Presuming his good health, he’ll likely return to the starting lineup. To make room, CB Crezdon Butler was waived.


Bobby Wagner said he is ready to play Thursday after recovering from a torn pectoral muscle . . . Also listed as full participants in practice were CB Tye Smith (hip), DE Cliff Avril (ankle), DE Frank Clark (hamstring), RG Justin Britt (hip), WR Tyler Lockett (hip), Kam Chancellor (shoulder) and CB Marcus Burley (hand), although Burley will not play Thursday . . .  Non-participants included Lewis, Coleman, DT Jordan Hill (quad), LB Nick Moody (ankle), DT Demarcus Dobbs (shoulder) and Richard Sherman (ankle), although there was no indication Sherman was likely to miss Thursday.



  • jafabian

    York is the Howard Lincoln of the 49ers.

    • art thiel

      There are more analogies in pro sports than you think.

  • dingle

    Warner Brothers, Monty Python, and a Harbaugh joke with accompanying GIF.

    This is why I read SPNW. Well done, sir.

    • Lodowick

      “One day, lad, this will all be yours.” “Wot, the curtains?” Yes, well done Arthur, ye who pulled the scathing sports commentary sword from the stone. Regarding the Hawks…”well, what family doesn’t have it’s ups and downs?” (Lion in Winter). A few missed tackles, a few missed stop signs….one day they’ll wake up and realize they lost ‘the bonny bunch of roses all’ (Napoleon).

      • art thiel

        Thanks for the ideas. Happy to steal.

    • art thiel

      Glad you enjoyed.

      • bugzapper

        Trivia: Did you know Monty Python’s first appearances in Seattle were financed by Ivar? Yeah, that Ivar. (Somewhere there’s a Levi’s Stadium=Acres of Clams joke waiting to happen.)

  • MrPrimeMinister

    So that’s what these losses are about? The franchise tried to save a few measly bucks on 2nd rate linemen. didn’t work, so now they bring the big boy back. Is this walmart or something?

    • art thiel

      It’s the NFL with a hard salary cap. Feel free to read up on it.

      • MrPrimeMinister

        My point being they could have kept the guy all along rather than letting him go and then bringing him back.

  • Matt712

    If the well-publicized current problem of linemen coming out of college (i.e., lack of adequate training for the pro game) is true (and there seems to be plenty of evidence it is), then I really don’t have a problem with the Seahawks concept of converting a better athlete while he’s young. But the reality is, they either over-estimated their ability to coach (and/or the players’ ability to learn) the position; or they were willing to sacrifice a season to do it.

    • art thiel

      It’s still six games into a 16-game season. I suspect thought defense and special teams would hold things together until December.

      • bugzapper

        Isn’t that like McClendon and Zduriencik thinking the 2014 M’s bullpen would remember how to close a game in 2015, and hold things together until the M’s played the Mets in the World Series?

  • Its onlySports(DavidWakefield)

    I have seen minimal comments from infiltrating 49er fans on our various comment posts in the seattle seahawk material and various articles.
    Both teams being 2-4 must have something to do with that .The downturn in quality football has been a bit shocking from just two short years ago.
    The niners are catching the Hawks at the right time for an upset. Lets hope that is not the case.

    • art thiel

      Niners fans have had a year’s worth of their own dysfunctions. Seahawks are an afterthought.

  • eddieTeacher

    It’s hardly surprising. Two years ago we had one of the youngest teams in the league. So called leaders in the locker room were hardly leaders at all. As the team has matured and the true leaders have emerged, one has to question the maturity of the so called leaders. Recent events in the news paint a fairly accurate picture of the mentality of this team. I won’t get into whether or not that Jackson was actually racing another teammate or if he was just speeding. But I doubt a car driving the speed limit would have slid through an intersection, taken out a stop sign, etc etc. Oh and he’s thirty something. Going 3-3 last year and then winning 9 of ten has done nothing but bolster a false confidence in their belief they can do it again. While I do think they have the talent, I don’t think they have what it takes to right the ship. The last three years felt “magical” and I sensed as early as the preseason that the magic was gone. Hopefully not permanently.

    • art thiel

      All fans mock champions on the way down. Part of the gig of fandom. Try to be happy for what was done.