BY Art Thiel 07:48PM 10/26/2015

Thiel: In Servais, Mariners go the Seahawks route

Every box on Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto’s list for what he wanted in a manager was checked after the interview with Scott Servais, who is eager to join the plan to “understand how to conquer the mind.”

New Mariners manager Scott Servais has one direction in mind. / Alan Chitlik, Sportspress Northwest

In his introduction of new manager Scott Servais Monday at Safeco Field, general manager Jerry Dipoto said the hire marked a “new beginning.” Aside from redundancy, in that all beginnings are new, why is it that the Mariners always seem to be at the start? Doesn’t Seattle get credit for time served, as with any well-behaved prisoner?

Perhaps the answer is after 38 years, four playoff appearances and no World Series, starting over is mandatory. There isn’t a lot worth saving.

In Dipoto, Servais and director of player development Andy McKay, the Mariners have hired baseball bosses who represent a massive cultural makeover: They understand how to get the best out of each player by listening, and by connecting them to each other and the organization.

If you think that is Straight Outta Carroll, listen to this:

“I look at myself as a football coach in a baseball uniform,” Servais said. He confirmed that the expressions from the assembled media he received must have been similar to those in his Mariners interview.

“I used the line in the interview and I got some weird looks,” he said, grinning. “I think football coaches are the most prepared and detailed of (all sports) coaches because they practice so much. In football, the game is won at the line of scrimmage. They win the line of scrimmage, they win the game.

“Where is the line of scrimmage in baseball? The strike zone. You have to control the strike zone, whether you’re on the mound or in the batter’s box. In the batter’s box, it’s swinging at good pitches, getting deep in the count, walking a little more. (For pitchers) it’s keeping the pitch count down. Getting deep in games so the starter has a chance to win.

“That’s where it happens — the strike zone.”

The analogy is strikingly apt, particularly at this moment. The two-time NFC champion Seahawks are 3-4 largely because they made so little investment in their offensive line. The line may improve, but the early games can’t be un-lost.

The analogy was no surprise to Dipoto.

“We talk about the line of scrimmage and the baseball strike zone frequently,” he said, mentioning that when he was interim GM of the Diamondbacks, his manager was Kirk Gibson, who played some football at Michigan State. “It’s one of the things we impart to our minor leaguers: Control the line of scrimmage.

“It’s fun; it gives them something to focus on other than the mundane. Find a way to make it more interesting. I think what he means is that he’s detailed, disciplined and organized. One thing I can say about Scott, more than anyone else I know, is he loves to practice. That is more clearly associated with football.”

It’s one aspect of the big emphasis Dipoto puts on player development: Help make the talent on hand reach potential. It’s easier and cheaper than spending $240 million on top-shelf veterans such as Robinson Cano, whose expiration date is closer.

The current paradigm in MLB is the Kansas City Royals, who have grown a number of players from their farm system, and supplemented the lineup with vets via trade or free agency. It worked well enough to make them two-time American League champions.

In contrast, the Mariners, despite similar high draft choices from playing as poorly as the Royals over the past decade, have precious few championship-class farm players — at least until they are traded away.

“Player development is your lifeblood,” Dipoto said. “That’s where it begins. You scout, you draft, you develop, you acquire players. (The organizations) needs to be invested in their continual development. It’s never more present than at the lower levels, but it shouldn’t end (when players reach) at the big leagues.”

It’s probably the biggest reason Dipoto chose Servais over five other semifinalists, which included former Red Sox star (and Mariners farmhand) Jason Varitek. Dipoto admitted without hesitation that a long personal relationship with Servais helped, but his assets were more tangible. Servais has been a scout internationally and domestically, directed a draft, was a catching coordinator, and has spent the past 10 years in the AL West with the Rangers and Angels.

“He’s also what I believe to be one of the most well-respected player development leaders in the industry,” he said. The emphasis on player development is what the Seahawks have mastered by coaching up undrafted free agents into contributors.

Different sports, but the same performance principles apply. It’s why he hired McKay, a sports psychologist who had been the peak-performance coordinator of the Rockies.

“It’s where the game goes next,” he said. “Baseball has tackled so many different frontiers. Even today, 20 years after analytics have been a critical part of the game, we talk about it like it’s a new frontier: ‘We can’t possibly cross over that.’

“There are 30 organizations in tune with the analytics of the game, that are smart in how they carve up the numbers. Some do it better than others.What Andy brings us is what I think is the next frontier — understanding how to conquer the mind.”

As excited as he was over the hire of Servais, Dipoto was jacked about McKay.

“He understands how to dial a player up, to get him over his own fears and the nuances of playing every day,” Dipoto said. “He’ll find out how players are wired, how they tick, and give them the best opportunity to connect their minds with what their bodies do.”

“Of all the hires I’ve made, I’m so excited to see what Andy can bring to the table.”

For a team that was last in MLB in hitting with runners in snoring scoring position, the idea of dialing up players to do what Seahawks QB Russell Wilson always says — “stay in the moment” — would rank among the great turnaround feats in Seattle sports.

For the moment, it’s all talk. But good words delivered well to talented players is also a big part of Dipoto’s solution. And they don’t cost $240 million and get hernias.


  • jafabian

    Visiting the Seahawks isn’t uncommon among coaches nowadays looking for an edge. Even Lloyd McClendon did that before starting his first season as the M’s manager and initially it worked. Too many variables entered into the equation for the 2015 season. Some of his comments were very telling this year when he was questioned on some of his decisions and his response would be that the numbers told him to do the move that he did. Evidently not a big fan of saber-metrics.

    I’m just as interested to see if McKay can get things turned around with the M’s farmhands as I am seeing what Servais does with the club. The M’s have drafted solid players but they fail when the get to Seattle. That needs to change.

    • art thiel

      The franchise’s single biggest failing — the inability to find/develop/keep major-league=plus-level talent.

    • Bayview Herb

      We could field a winning team with the stars that left us to play for different teams. Note our former designated hitter now playing in the world series.

      • jafabian

        Oh, I’ve noticed that. Plus they have Chris Young. I like Young a lot but didn’t like how Morales all but thumbed his nose at the M’s. And I never understood Jack’s fascination with him. I wouldn’t have brought him back after that.

  • Jamo57

    “Peak-performance coordinator”. Dang. Wish I had one of those……

    • art thiel

      I married mine.

      • Bayview Herb

        Dang. How did that work out?

  • just passing thru

    On visiting Spring Training for the first time last March, I was struck at how much standing around the minor league players were doing during their multi-hour workouts. The instruction did not look focused and drills were about reps more than instruction. It will be interesting, and telling, to see if ST 2016 truly is different.

    • art thiel

      Every spring training site everywhere is like that. Training 200+ athletes is part of why it takes six weeks.

  • Sam Base

    I always enjoy it when the Mariners flagship radio station has to actually talk about the Mariners for a few minutes.

    • art thiel

      They know where the money is. But watch out if the Mariners get good. It will be bigger than the Seahawks.

      • Bayview Herb

        I agree. I as a kid used to attend Rainier games back when Leo Lassen did the play-by-play. I still have my ticket stub for the fist game the Mariners played. Unfortunately they don’t play in Bayview, Idaho where I now reside.

        • whidbeytom

          Leo Lassen; remember this? “Back, back, back and it’s OVER!”

          • Bayview Herb

            Of course. He had many other Lassenisms. How about, “it was a do or you don’t and he did.”

  • MrPrimeMinister

    Well the guy better get a good pair of sideline running shoes and stock up on wrigley’s doublemint if he wants to emulate pete.

    • art thiel

      Pete should be a fitness hero to any man over 50.

  • Bayview Herb

    Let’s see if I have this right. We have a club president that has no baseball background. He hires a GM that has never managed or coached. He in turn hires a field manager that has neither coaching or managing experience. This oughta prove interesting.

    • art thiel

      They did it other ways and it failed.

      • Bayview Herb

        It will at least be interesting, and best if it works.

  • RadioGuy

    “Understand how to conquer the mind?” Maybe they should’ve hired Tony Robbins as manager or brought in J.Z. Knight as a consultant. And as far as the strike zone serving as a “line of scrimmage,” that’s just another way of saying “throw strikes.”

    Oh well. Whatever. It’s the Mariners.

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  • notaboomer

    $240 million hernia. ouch!

  • Husky73

    Metrics madness is only a tool. It’s an easy game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. And no lollygagging.