The grip on Josh Gordon goes way back.

"Initially it started for me, (because of) a lot of childhood and adolescent trauma-based fear," he said. "I was using in my childhood. That environment brought me into that a lot sooner than a normal—whatever normal is—kid should be brought into that, to be able to make a decision on their own of what to do.

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If the Saints and Seahawks were to win their their final two regular-season games  . . .

Wait. What? You there, the gray-haired gentlemen with his hand up. What is your NFL postseason-speculation question?

"I don't really care," said Pete Carroll. 'I really don't. We have to win a game, then we'll see where we are. That's the only thing that matters to me."

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During practice last week, Russell Wilson offered up a point of emphasis to coach Pete Carroll and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

"I told the coaches, the ball spins good for me in North Carolina," he said, referring not only to his three starring years at North Carolina State, but to the Seahawks' run of four wins in five games in Charlotte against the Panthers.

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After being shredded by the Rams for 455 yards, the Seahawks defense will be without two starters, and possibly a third, for the game in Charlotte Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. DE  Jadeveon Clowney  and LB Mychal Kendricks are out, and CB Shaquill Griffin is questionable with a tender hamstring.

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It would be errant to say that Russell Wilson will have his get-well game Sunday at Carolina (10 a.m., FOX), because that assumes Wilson is sick (he isn't) and the bedraggled Panthers will lose (probably, but all us have been around the NFL long enough to be dope-slapped by assumptions).

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After several questions about the perplexing failures in Sunday's 28-12 loss to the Rams, coach Pete Carroll offered a hint to media members at Wednesday's presser on the direction he'd like rest of the conversation to take:

" . . . moving on," he said.

To Carolina. To a road game Sunday morning against a Panthers team that fired its long-time coach last week, is without injured star QB Cam Newton is 5-8 this season and 1-6 in the regular seasons against the Seahawks during Carroll's tenure.

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Since the outcome Sunday was the Rams' fourth win in the past five games against the Seahawks, and eighth in the past 12 meetings, there probably shouldn't be much shock in Seattle's 28-12 loss at the Coliseum. But 10 wins in the season's first 12 games created an expectation that somehow things would have gone better.

In fact, the Rams own the Seahawks.

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For a good team, it was hard to imagine playing worse. Under-energized. Over-matched. Out-coached. Borderline helpless. They embarrassed themselves in a big national game.

But enough about the Los Angeles Rams. How about those Seahawks Sunday night on national TV at the Coliseum?

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The path the Seahawks have taken to get to 10-2 and the top of the NFC West is mindful of the old Paris-Dakar auto rally, the off-road endurance race in Africa where participants had to survive heat, mud, dunes, floods, criminals, animals, washouts and blowouts. The goal is not to end the day upside down.

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As closely aligned as are the quarterback careers of Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins, in college and the NFL, there's one big discrepancy.

Wilson has eight playoff wins and two Super Bowl appearances. Cousins has none of either.

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The last time they played in Seattle, how bad did the Minnesota Vikings suck?

So bad that Vikings coach Mike Zimmer the next day fired his first-year offensive coordinator, John DeFilippo -- in December, when the Vikings were 6-6-1 and still in playoff contention.

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A breakthrough.

The Seahawks won a football game when Russell Wilson didn't display every superpower on the roster of The Avengers.

As likely you are aware, the Seahawks have become so reliant on Wilson that there was talk he might adopt the entire team as dependents. After all, a rich guy like Wilson needs every tax deduction he can get.

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Remember when Philadelphia Eagles were the trendiest thing in the NFL? Me, neither.

The Eagles, whom the Seahawks play in Philly Sunday (10 a.m., FOX), were immediate national darlings when they smited Emperor Palpatine and his Storm Troopers in Super Bowl LII. 

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Could it be that the Seahawks defense is . . . well, um, you know . . . respectable?

One game proves nothing, but it did inspire speculation after the Seahawks' 27-24 overtime over San Francisco last week that the weak link might be made of something other than straw and duct tape.

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Well, who wouldn't want a zippy drone delivering a kale/arugula smoothie from Whole Foods to your seat at the Clink, then after the Seahawks game, take a Blue Origin space shuttle into low earth orbit to beat the Seattle traffic?

All this and more can be yours, 12s, once Jeff Bezos buys the Seahawks.

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Veteran Seahawks fans by now know well one of the principal verses in the Book of First Carrollians: You can't win the game in the first quarter. You can't win the game in the second quarter. You can't win the game in the third quarter. You can win the game in the fourth quarter.

But the latest two weeks of evidence may require a modest change in the sacrament:

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When your children's children's children hear you talk about the Monday Night Football game of Eleven Eleven Nineteen, they will whisper among themselves: "How come the implant in his brain doesn't shut off the babble?"

The oldest child explains, "That is the only one the government allows to pass. It keeps them happy."

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As someone who has spent a good chunk of life dealing with addiction, WR Josh Gordon knows a little bit about hard tasks. So mastering a playbook from a new football team would seem a trifle. But that too is a lift.

“I’ve had to do it a few times with different coaches, different teams obviously," he said Saturday after practice, his first media session since the Seahawks surprised the NFL this week by claiming him off waivers from New England. "It can be difficult. It can be hard on the fly.

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Richard Sherman would love nothing better than to help San Francisco, a franchise he helped crater starting in 2013, do this season to the Seahawks what his old club had done to the 49ers for much of the decade: Step on their throats and twist.

Sherman, a California native, Stanford grad and Seattle-area resident, then could say he helped weaponize and vaporize his two favorite NFL franchises. The ultimate power trip.

Aren't revenge games fun?

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Besides the win, the Seahawks earned something else Sunday in beating, barely, Tampa Bay: Knowledge that C Joey Hunt, DK Metcalf and TE Jake Hollister can be reliable players, and that there's room for newcomer WR Josh Gordon in the offense, should he deign to be a regular participant in practice.

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